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Joshua Ken
neth
908 days ago
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35mm Body + digital camera insides = AWESOME-TASTIC-EPICNESS!!!
Ok so i know the majority of you are probably like me, and Im sure the majority of you have considered this. Is it possible to take the guts out of a 35mm SLR and take the guts out of a point and shoot digital, and make a hybrid camera.
A frankenstein monster if you will, 35mm body and lenses, and the inner workings of a digital camera.
I would love to know if you guys have come across anything like that, or if youd be interested in starting a company a with me (hahaha im dreaming big, but it does have potential)
Let me know what you guys think.
-Josh
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ben-s
907 days ago
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It's been done, and sadly never went anywhere.
There was one concept that had the sensor on a strip of "film", and some of the electronics in a dummy film can.
The rest of the electronics, including an LCD were to go in a grip mounted on the bottom of the camera.
AFAIK this never went beyond a concept.
Leica made the Digital Modul-R for their R9 SLR camera, but I don't think they sold very many.
Pictures in this thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-for … 76142.html
A couple more pics here: http://gallery.photographyreview.com/sh … amp;sort=1
DPreview here: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0306/03062 … italr9.asp
Nikon made a long series of concepts and digital modifications to their cameras in collaboration with Kodak, but info on the net is somewhat lacking as to what was what.
This seems to be the most detailed resource: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/co … /index.htm
The ones I know the most about are Canon's early digital SLRs, also developed in collaboration with Kodak; the DCS 3, the DCS 1, the DCS 2000 and finally the DCS 6000.
They were all based on an EOS 1N film body with a digital back and a box of electronics under the camera.
The DCS 3 and 1 were as big or bigger than the camera itself - and the EOS-1N is not a small camera to begin with!
Later models became smaller until they finally made an integrated DSLR.
The EOS 1N has a removable back door, so the digital back clips into the hinge mount and latches shut. It's quite a bit thicker than the standard back door.
This camera is also particularly suited to digital conversion because it can communicate detailed information regarding exposure and other camera settings to the back. This was initially for the Databack, which reserved the last 2 frames of the film and optically printed a time, date and exposure report for each frame of the film - an early incarnation of EXIF data if you like.
You can see more about these cameras here: http://www.canon.com/camera-museum/came … -2004.html
and here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_DCS_3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_DCS_1
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richard wa
ng
907 days ago
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Like the undead vampire, the Silicon Film/Imagek Digital Film Canister AKA "The Great Vaporware photo device of 1999-2002" once again emerges from it's lair.
This was an attempt to try to salvage all those camera purchased during the "SLR Boom"(1981-1989) from being wiped out by the coming onslaught of digital.
The system was to consist of
1. A film canister allowed for 24 exposures at 1.3 megapixels which could be used by any camera.
2. A dock with a PCMCIA adapter
3. A viewer/storage device.
Retail price of $800.
When it was announced at Photokina 1999, it was the buzz of the show. They signed up distributors, took pre-orders and set a launch date of 2000. From then on every 2 to 6 months, Silicon Film would announce that it would be setting back the launch date. After 2 years with no working demo, Silicon Film closed up shop.
All the engineers said that the device would be impossible to make because it couldn't be universally compatible. A sensor is not like a piece of film.
With the progress of sensors and memory, if someone had enough money to throw at it, you could probably make it work. They burned enough money and created something that resembled Polaroid film. So anything is possible.
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superdewa
907 days ago
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That would be really cool
ttv (through the viewfinder) photography has a vague low-fi resemblance to what you're going for.
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richard wa
ng
907 days ago
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Deidre
You can get the same effect by putting a big thumbprint on your sensor.
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ben-s
907 days ago
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Richard, that was the film thing I was on about in my post, but I fouldn't remember the name. Thanks for posting it.
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