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Willtastic
2085 days ago
 
Tufteach, even if they don't have a rule against it I wouldn't do it because you'd look creepy as hell in a grocery store taking pictures of their produce.

If anything go to a flea market / farmer's market where it's more open and community-based and then it can at least look like you're taking pictures because of the event.


If you saw a man drowning and could either save him or photograph it, what kind of camera would you use?

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superdewa
2085 days ago
 
My daughter takes photos in the supermarket all the time. She has gotten some nice ones of colorful produce, lines of hot sauce, etc. There is a different feeling to the colors and produce at the supermarket than at the farmer's market. I find the supermarket works well for interesting composition. There's actually a famous photo taken in a supermarket, that I love. I can't find it now though, of course.

My daughter's never had any issues taking photos at our supermarket, and neither have I, on the occasions I've had my camera with me and have taken a shot because it was there. Of course we live in a small town and everyone kind of knows everyone, so I don't think we are seen as threatening.

The only time I was asked not to take a photo was outside the FBI building in Washington DC. The lines of that building are very interesting, and there was this great guard dog by the entrance. I lifted my camera, and the guards quickly covered their faces and started shaking their heads. Not a big surprise, LOL.


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tufteach
2085 days ago
 
Being in a small town makes a local person pretty recognizable in the local grocery store. I don't worry too much about that. I figure if I am taking pics the produce guys or other store people will either ignore me or tell me to stop if it is not allowed. I will look for a sign. I have never seen one but that doesn't mean it is not there. I won't go in there and just start shooting anything and everything--just the radishes, apples, oranges--colorful stuff! Flea/farmers markets are a good idea, but none open yet.



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Willtastic
2085 days ago
 
Ah.  My town is a medium size, so none of us trust each other but it's still small enough that we care when someone is weird.

Small towns they trust each other, big towns they just don't care


If you saw a man drowning and could either save him or photograph it, what kind of camera would you use?

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arvind
2083 days ago
 
Thanks for all the great comments on my post. Someone also linked to my blog article, but I'd talked to a lot of people in person, and via Twitter that have had the same thing happen to them. Apparently, there are tons of places in the U.S. where private companies have made rules about posting photos. A few days ago I was asked my a Duane Reade (New York drugstore) employee to stop taking pictures in their store.

As for the private property-mall thing. A mall is private property, but it is a public accommodation (in USA). This means, as long as they let me in the mall, I can take photos. As soon as they tell me I have to leave the mall, I have to leave, or they could call the police and I could be charged for trespassing. They can never take my camera, or "make" me delete photos. They can only tell me to leave. They also cannot physically contact me, or their security could face charges of assault, and the mall would be open to civil charges. I don't mean to get too legal, but want to make sure people understand their rights. My blog post has more of an explanation:
http://www.21apples.org/articles/2008/1 … -my-family

I have, however, taken many photos in my local supermarket, without anyone saying anything. I do shoot pretty fast though, and here are some results:
http://forum.photojojo.com/img/posted/img495ecb5366da8.jpg?url=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/3101720510_10d87fd077_m.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arvindgrover/3101720510/

http://forum.photojojo.com/img/posted/img495ecb538cef3.jpg?url=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3270/3101729400_03719f9682_m.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arvindgrover/3101729400/



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DOlson
2083 days ago
 
Since you are in the area go up to Pike Street Market in Seattle The venders will pose and all. I get some nice shots at City Center Fish Market of the guys throwing salmon around. You'll find the produce a lot nicer looking than at Freddy's too.

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tufteach
2083 days ago
 
Haven't been to Seattle for awhile (about 2-4 hours away). I do go to Pike's when I am in Seattle--fun place! I am looking forward to spring here when the farmer's markets open up plus the farms on Sauvie Island open their stands. I was in Freddy's yesterday and asked the produce guy about taking pictures and he said as far as he knew there was no rule against it. We'll see--I want to go early one morning when there aren't too many shoppers.



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belleariel
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2083 days ago
 
Uh,oh...here I go living dangerously "looking creepy as hell" taking pictures of produce in a grocery store!  This was a privately-owned grocery store in the Asian section of Queens, NY.  I got the OK to take photos from the Store Manager, as long as I didn't take pictures of the customers.  Come to think of it...he did look at me as though I were a little strange.  I'm in the same category as "Limeslushie" except at the other end of the spectrum....short seniors with point and shoot cameras don't appear threatening.
When I carry the Nikon D80 with a lens hood (instead of a cheapo filter, per Ben's suggestion), I get a lot more respect.  They think I'm a real photographer!  Anyway, here are some grocery store produce photos:

http://forum.photojojo.com/img/posted/img495fd6e8b5c7a.jpg?url=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/3163791014_523d19dc15.jpg

http://forum.photojojo.com/img/posted/img495fda1801d15.jpg?url=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/3163137085_5fe7504c64.jpg

A pretty bride-to-be shopping for her wedding sari even gave me the OK to take her photo.  In another shop...not the grocery store.

http://forum.photojojo.com/img/posted/img495fdba2be793.jpg?url=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/251/3163909038_0b3a7110f0.jpg


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lacygun9mm
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2082 days ago
 
I took my nikon to the mall with my son, I took 170 pics until mall security told me it was illegal to take pics at the mall. The security wanted my camera and my sd card. I refused. I walked out. I notified my police officer buddy, he said if i gave the security guard my camera I could have gotten him for strong armed robbery, If its illegal then they should have signs no photo taking allowed. But no matter what don't give your camera up.

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Gregory Ro
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2082 days ago
 
I agree, if it is illegal, then the SHOULD have a sign posted. I take pictures at The Mall of America all and have never been stopped for it. If it's illegal, then it's a matter for the local police, not a security guard.



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Ankou
2082 days ago
 
lacygun9mm@yahoo.com & Gregory Roth  -- I moved your posts to this thread since it was already open and I believe lacygun9mm@yahoo.com's post was actually meant to be a reply here and not a new topic.


www.lowcows.com - You know your business, we know the web.

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apricotX
2081 days ago
 
http://forum.photojojo.com/img/posted/img49614ca9a2faf.jpg?url=http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1154/3166900888_b9a62b06a7.jpg
it's not art if it doesn't make you feel like you have hornets in your brain
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BURROMAN
2081 days ago
 
Suggest everyone read this
A mall is a "quasi public area"
Photography is absolute freedom of speech!!!!
I can tell you first hand in Panama City Florida the mall got the crap beat out of them by myself and a friend and now you can expect the malls of America know about "Pruneyard and Panama City Florida"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pruneyard_ … _v._Robins


[edited by Ben-s; please don't "shout" in all caps smile]

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smartipant
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2080 days ago
 
IMHO, retailers and mall owners (and others) are shooting themselves in the foot by not allowing photos. Think of all the FREE ADVERTISING they get when people post images and talk about their experiences at these businesses! If their customer service is good, they'll benefit from the talk! smile



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Joanie H
2078 days ago
 
While most malls have their own policies, some will let you shoot, and some won't.

Oh, and I do know for a fact that Ikea has its "no photography" policy posted at the entrance of every store in the U.S.


I'm just going to take ONE photo. It'll only take a minute. Promise.

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Saskia
2078 days ago
 
Hej there,

I've noticed a certain agression against my photocamera. I was once kicked off a subway station where I was taking pictures of a friend of mine. (homework for school) And three weeks later a promotion film of the subway company comes out, Japanese people who toke pictures of everyting in... jep exactly the same station. In this film a lady from the company actually takes a picture for them (not the same one who kicked me out, that would have been too much for me ;P)
So that's story number one.
Another time I was taking a 360degrees panorama from my old neighborhood and people came running out shouting at me to stop. (The only house on my picture was for sale and epmty at the moment).
A few day's later I was in a park trying to get a goose on picture. A man on a bicycle came at me at at least 30 km p/h, but not before he scared the goose away. (I was in the middle of a lawn, so he actually left the road). Then he cycled a few laps around me shouting in some strange languige. And he left.

It's amazing what a camera can bring out in people...



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bjeanneb
2078 days ago
 
In the Toronto subway the security guard asked me very gently not to take pictures.  That was it.  No confiscating of pictures or ugly words or anything.



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royalld
2078 days ago
 
Forgive me if this posts more than once... I'm new here and struggling a bit.

I think Arvind handled the situation in the mall very well.

I have, twice, asked shopping center managers if I may take pictures in areas the had "No Photos" signs posted. Both times I explained what I would be using the photos for and both times they said yes. Most facilities don't have a problem with photographers as long as the know what is happening on their premises; and why.

I do think it is silly to have to ask permission to take a picture of a sandwich, a family member, or a friend... but so many people live in fear now-a-days and to many of them a stranger with a camera is a very scary thing.



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bearly1227
2077 days ago
 
I was unduly impressed by a very clear sign at a local Burger King Restaurant, which said, in essence: The taking of photos or videos is expressly forbidden.

At first blush, considering my children's and grandchildren's birthdays, this would be untenable. After much reconsideration, the prospect of Burger King being a family oriented restaurant, perhaps the intent is to prevent pedophiles from photographing family members?



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superdewa
2077 days ago
 
I just don't get it. I'm with Smartipants -- why so much concern over photos? If anything, photos are free advertisement, and not allowing them just makes people angry.

I understand where there are security issues (such as computer monitors with government or corporate secrets) or where there is original art, maybe, but what kind of security issues are there in most malls and stores that are going to be made worse by a photo? These places are already open to the public. Anyone could go in there with a notebook or great observation skills or a photographic memory or record what what looks like a phone call on a cell phone. If I wanted to breach security or was spy for another retailer, I wouldn't need a camera to do it.

About possible pedophiles -- they can take photos just as easily at a public playground. Banning all photos from Burger King because of this possible but unlikely threat is ridiculous.

I'd love to see someone who knows something about this post here (just like Helen Oster did in the Adorama thread).


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